Deniers of “The Truth”: Why an Agnostic Approach to Warfare is Key
Deniers of “The Truth”: Why an Agnostic Approach to Warfare is Key by LTC Grant M. Martin, U.S. Army in Military Review
I will never forget the day I ate lunch with a retired chaplain and his son in Leavenworth, Kansas in 2008. At one point an acquaintance of the chaplain’s walked up to him in the restaurant and shared with him his opinion of the School of Advanced Military Studies (SAMS).
“They are deniers of The Truth,” he proclaimed, and went on to describe the school’s sin: the instructors encouraged students to question their most fundamental beliefs. At the time I thought it curious that someone would apply a religious attitude to the study of the military arts. After my first few months at the school, however, I realized that as one questioned one’s assumptions about the nature of war it was only natural that one would also start to question other assumptions about life, God, and everything. Critical thinking was difficult to limit to just one subject.
Amazingly, there were even more officers uncomfortable with questioning their fundamental assumptions about warfare. Today I realize that SAMS could only do so much in introducing different ways to approach the subject…
From the article: “My observations, admittedly very subjective and unscientific, follow.”
This article pairs nicely with the following talk, especially the beginning in which the speaker talks about different kinds of knowledge, scientific, historical, and the “science” of intelligence:
Spies, secrets and science: reflections from the history of MI6:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CtI5xzqnD8
The scientific method begins with observation, in fact, observation is a common theme across multiple disciplines. I know the fashion is to talk about ‘linear’ and ‘non-linear’ knowledge but I’m not so sure that helps. I don’t think even the ‘linear’ disciplines view themselves as so linear, given the nature of observation and variability in observation.
Anyway, an agnostic point of discussion 🙂
The speaker mentions the Oxford dictionary definition (?) of the scientific method:
“A method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.”
What, then, is systematic observation? How does Design differ in terms of observation? It’s a form of observation, under its own idea of non-systemized systemization?
Anyway, point of discussion. I don’t know. I never know. I just like to ask questions. The beginning of any discipline of study 🙂 ….
I don’t think this “agnostic” view stands up to scrutiny. If by “questioning”, the author means that it is important for leaders to understand the basis of moral authority, I agree. The Naval ROTC program includes a course on leadership and ethics, and it spends a great deal of time educating prospective officers on the sources of morality and ethics. However, that doesn’t seem to be what the author is suggesting. We rely upon our leaders (both commissioned and non-commissioned officers) to manage violence and enforce ethical and moral behavior on the battlefield, and actively undermining those ethical and moral beliefs (“They are deniers of The Truth,” he proclaimed, and went on to describe the school’s sin: the instructors encouraged students to question their most fundamental beliefs) seems counterintuitive.
I also disagree that questioning the nature of war – which, as we’ve discussed previously, the Army in particular does not have a particularly effective recent track record of teaching in the first place – naturally leads to the questioning of more fundamental topics. Questioning of various aspects of the military, perhaps, or acknowledgment that like the military, religious institutions are human endeavours built to respond to human challenges, and subject to human errors and excesses; but that’s a much more limited concept than what the author seems to suggest.
Part of the confusion stems from how the author conceives of this study. It is a bit of a retrospective observational study, a type of study with its own weakness and strengths.
The author looks at his own descriptions of different groups, including a roughly ‘control’ group, that he commanded.
Based on his own observations, he is attempting to mine and organize the data in a retrospective fashion.
A little discussion on the nature of study design might help but time is limited and I won’t go into it (and it’s not my best area, to be honest). I’d actually prefer if someone else dug into it, lazy creature that I am….
@BillM
I think this was a fine exercise and I can think of many other ideas he can pursue based on this initial research or observations. I’m sure he has thought of the studies too. Next time, prospective study on Design versus other groups in the training exercise, reworking his initial observations in a different way, encourage others to look at their own training records and writing up those experiences, etc. Once you ask a good academic question, the scholarship kind of leads itself in a million different ways.
This was a good article on personal observations about training, education and planning, how differently trained groups approach the process.
I’m just trained to read articles in a certain ‘nerd’ way and was trying to stimulate a discussion. Earlier on in the thread I had posted a YouTube link to a talk about intelligence, the scientific method and history. Now I see a nice article about observation in the journalism and fiction of Checkov:
http://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/chekhovs-beautiful-nonfiction?mbid=rss
PS: War on the Rocks has a nice article on an interdisciplinary approach to social sciences and policy questions and this is exactly the kind of work that will find its place in such a future department, I think. I’m sure the military already does this in its own way. It has too, it looks to every field it can to help.
http://warontherocks.com/2015/02/u-s-social-science-and-international-relations/
Medicine is so different that I’m not always sure how to approach social science and I’ve been nasty about it here and at other blogs too. Again, wrong in my initial impressions. It’s not discipline so much as quality that matters.
The other problems is money and society’s attitudes toward research. We are eating our seed corn, in a way, and policy relevance can have problems if one is not careful. At any rate, societies that don’t view the general nature of research and academics in a positive way have trouble. It’s not so easy to see relevance and sometimes you have to have faith in the process.
The historian in the talk I linked earlier uses the term “organized skepticism.” This is the basis of academic discipline. It is organized skepticism, and when the author uses the term “agnostic”, it serves a similar purpose. So too with the constant teaching about how to think about assumptions that I see in military journals and on military sites.
I sometimes get the feeling–not directed at this author–that ideas are being parroted rather than deeply thought about or understood. This is the basis of the creation of a buzzword. The idea behind the buzzword may be perfectly fine (there was an article on this distinction here at SWJ) and useful but if you don’t want to think about it, you can just use the term and this takes the place of showing that a concept is understood. It is a form of signaling in place of thought.
Useful reference:
http://www.biusante.parisdescartes.fr/sfhd/ecrits/jla.htm
Foucolt’s essay argued that the gaze of doctors was dehumanizing because of the distance between doctors and patients, one argument among many in the essay.
But I would argue that post modernists do the same with science, the scientific method and physicians. Post modernists have their own ‘sovereignty of the gaze,’ and dehumanize. A physician or scientists experience is marginalized in that their arguments don’t carry as much weight in the eyes of the post modernists. Society may wish to turn physicians into sages or priests or shamans, but that doesn’t mean that the method of a physician is the same as a sage or priest or shaman.
But this is an old discussion and won’t be solved in a comments section.
Still, I sometimes wonder if all this talk about how to think is simply just an excuse not to do the homework, or the work itself.
Post modernism doesn’t have a lock on observation, anymore than other fields of endeavor or study.
I am continually told that the military is too rational and analytical. At it’s highest level, I simply don’t believe it. It is a very emotional, power-relational, romantic place. I think the case may be made for that and I’m sure there is a body of literature on that because very few thoughts are truly original.
So I went looking for examples of kinds of prospective studies involving Special Forces and found this example (for my own education, nothing more):
http://publications.amsus.org/doi/abs/10.7205/MILMED-D-14-00181?journalCode=milmed
In Military Medicine
These sorts of studies are only the beginning of understanding, inklings of a suggestion of a direction.
Still, you have to start somewhere and other areas of medicine aren’t really different when the disease or process isn’t understood.
The critique is always, well, what if you haven’t studied the key variable, and correlation and causation and all that….
A lifetime of study.
You can imagine similar study design for Design as one inkling of a suggestion of a direction.
Oh, I see. There is a whole “big data” predictive analytics on this sort of thing?
http://www.predictiveanalyticsworld.com/workforce/2015/agenda.php
Quantifying “grit”. Well, I never.
Oh, good grief:
THE FUTURE OF SOF EDUCATION: A VISION FOR GLOBAL SPECIAL FORCES EDUCATION
By: COL Imre Porkoláb, Hungarian Army
https://globalecco.org/the-future-of-sof-education-a-vision-for-global-special-forces-education
What is it with the TED, Silicon Valley fixation of some western elites? It’s as if someone makes money in one field, and then that person automatically has wisdom in all others. Does that make sense? Is that logical?
This is happening in medicine too, the push to make everything online, nd you know what? Students routinely tell me (there is good literature on this) that what they really want is a good clinical teacher, someone to interact with from time to time. They may prefer watching a lecture online to going to class, but they want to interact with a real live person at some point, someone that knows what he or she is doing.
Well, flexibility is fine but to get rid of something completely without understanding what you will replace it with is just a giant gamble, and if it doesn’t work? Who picks up the pieces then?
Oh, I see now why I have such a problem with the “how many Clausewitz fit on the head of a pin” military theory-itizing. And some of the Design stuff. Look only in the mirror of your favorite theory and ignore the world around you:
This is from the medical site I linked earlier on the epistemological changes in medicine. Studying doctrine as holy writ, or constantly discussing military theory, is like theoretical medicine, where doctors studied texts and pretty much ignored the actual patient, her anatomy, physiology, all of it, to focus on the text.
Okay, not a perfect parallel and I’m sure others have noticed this too, but it is a bit strange to constantly look at a text or doctrine instead of studying the issue at hand.
Not putting the military down since I seem to give off that vibe and it irritates people. I do this for everything, and, as you see, I do this for medicine too. Including in faculty meetings, fool that I am.
Fads and fancies, fancies and fads. A brave new world.
I’m not sure deniers of the truth is the only way to look at it. Another way may be a refusal to search for truth, to insist that there is no search for truth or beauty, that the answers are only to be handed to you, without any work, without any effort. Effort and struggle are interesting things whether we are dealing with feelings, emotion, intuition, measurement, collecting observations, or the scientific method.
http://www.americanscientist.org/bookshelf/pub/thinking-about-looking
Post modern observations about science can strengthen scientific study and alter its social construct. Certainly not a novel or new thought. For instance, including minority groups in clinical trials or other health studies, especially where previously under-represented in the medical literature.
Post modernists make many valid–again, here is the word observation–observations about the social construct of science but where some go astray is in a certain level of scientific ignorance.
Linear and non-linear is blurred in reality. It’s a strange way for post modernists to talk, because they themselves argue that knowledge doesn’t accumulate in a linear fashion but moves in fits and starts.
The two strengthen each other, if done correctly. But I think a certain amount of scientific literacy is required to understand this.
Man feels and man observes that he feels. Woman feels and creates memory which is feeling plus time. Feeling, observation, memory. The artist, the scientist, the post modernists. Lines blurred. Fits and starts. There is room for this in science, in the scientific method itself. And scientific knowledge isn’t frozen in time.
What else is complexity theory but a theoretical type of mathematics?
I can’t help feeling that some post modernists don’t want to listen, but to dictate.
Ah, I lost my comment and I stupidly didn’t save it. I’ll try and recreate it. Anyway, I see someone gave this paper one star? I never rate these things but I rate it five stars. I like this sort of thing, there is an interesting story buried in there.
Back to junior high or whatever:
https://teacher.ocps.net/tiffany.lohman/page20.html
Observation versus intuition:
http://nymag.com/news/features/bernard-henri-levy-2012-1/
He has moved on to Ukraine, it seems:
headline in Kyiv Post ( I think this link doesn’t work, the comment disappears if I use it)
I bet a fair number of thought leaders, political leaders, and military leaders rely on intuition, “gut feeling”, and tell themselves that is reason.
Not that intuition is necessarily wrong.
But it odd that others pick up the pieces.
This War on the Rocks piece:
http://warontherocks.com/2015/02/dr-daves-hypothetical-institute-for-the-advanced-study-of-stupid-shit/#comment-683614
has several reading suggestions. I ordered a copy of The Human Face of War by Jim Storr and it is almost exactly what I’ve been looking for; much of what I’ve been asked to read is somehow unsatisfying intellectually.
The book fits in perfectly with the discussion the Design authors have started here, and with the comments to those articles.
How a discipline “begins”….very nice.
Read it for yourselves, make up your own minds.
Recently, I listened to a talk by Hew Strahan on YouTube (Europe, Geopolitics and Strategy) and he makes fantastic points about the increasing divergence of geopolitics and ideology within the western foreign policy community, such as it is.
The most recent hysteria about Russia and Nemetsov underscores this tension (and he makes mention of Ukraine).
The two camps are not even speaking the same language. Such overt hysteria. Worrying. A perfect situation for introducing missiles and more nuclear weapons….(uh, extreme sarcasm), NOT a good situation).
But I didn’t understand why he thought Libya or Syria so central to European security in terms of regime change? I should listen to the talk again.
Fits in nicely with this entire discussion.
Bill M, I think, had mentioned the medical history of Helicbacter pylori in the Council some time ago.:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_peptic_ulcer_disease_and_Helicobacter_pylori
But the part that really pertains to the larger discussion is this:
“….after his boss advises him to move to another subject.”
So outside pressures cause a scientist to abandon a key observation. (Those working in the realm of policy relevant work are smiling a bitter little smile at this….). The time line that I linked is very useful to this discussion and I think it may help some of the Design proponents to see where they misunderstand the nature of the hard sciences. Well, maybe that is not correct either. But for sure, there is better scientific method and better post modernism and the “better” stuff is not so opposed, I think.
And artists have a very nice way of talking about observation and intuition, again, one that is not so rigidly opposed, so that a life time of observation creates a rich inner life upon which artistic intuition draws.
It’s funny, isn’t it, where others are often interested in differences I seem to want to see the connections between two supposedly different things.
Observation, intuition and the arts:
http://www.mmtimes.com/index.php/lifestyle/11655-facing-the-collision-between-observation-and-intuition.html
Going back to the paper….I wonder if a similar process is occurring in the “design” group, the group that isn’t given too much instruction to begin with but has its own experiences and education and ideas to draw on.
How easy it is to hoax a certain type of post modernist, or, well, human being actually. We are creatures born to be lied to….:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/7196517/Bernard-Henri-Levy-caught-out-by-fake-philosopher.html
Metaphysics of the flabby….what a novel way to describe the Washington Consensus – intellectually speaking, of course.
OTOH, Bernard-Levy does have interesting things to say about the “narratives of South Asia,” and some of those articles aren’t half bad.
Most articles on this incident mention the Sokol hoax. I’ve mentioned that here before, oh jeez, some YEARS back. Can I really have stuck with this place and this subject for so long? I usually bail or flake out. This is unusual.
The Philosophize This! podcasts have a series on David Hume that fits in nicely with the various links that I’ve posted here, and it serves as a nice discussion point within the context of this article.
I really think this article is one of my favorites if only because it made me go looking for all sorts of different online educational tools.
http://www.philosophizethis.org
It also really helps works well with some of the chapters in The Human Face of War book that was mentioned earlier.
The late William Pfaff was interviewed in the “Conversations with History” series (so was John Nagl. It is a great series of talks).
conversations.berkeley.edu
He was interviewed in about 1990 or so on the end of the Cold War. In it he says many interesting things, but two in particular stood out to me, and gave me great comfort as I survey the wreckage of my feelings toward my own nation, a nation that I love but whose cultural pathologies wound, and wound deeply. He said that he came to realize that there was little in American political discourse that interested him and that he had to get away to think his own thoughts.
The second is that to him, the US was kind of intellectually exhausted, suffered an exhaustion of intellect. The same ideologies and ideas and policy talk going in circles.
An agnostic. A truth seeker. A thinker.
I think many of you that enjoyed some of the other podcasts and YouTube lectures I linked around here might like that talk very, very much. It gave me a great sort of comfort. This is a small problem, not even worth mentioning given the great suffering out there in the world, and, to the credit of many around here, you mean to be in the arena because you do want to help. But if we are going to talk, let’s really talk. I don’t think the military is any more or less honest than the rest of American society. We are all in this together.
I’ve been going through the links posted in this thread to see if I could organize them into anything useful. It’s pretty scatter shot but a key discussion point is on the nature of education, both institutional and personal.
Recently, I’ve seen a variety of articles on the many advantages the US possesses. One advantage discussed is the ‘world class American university’, as a category of advantage.
From the World Bank:
http://go.worldbank.org/9SJDQ5U020
I am actually worried about what I see as the “corporatization” of the university and the negative effects of the process on the very nature of scholarship. When I look at the desire to shove military education into an online template, I get the same feeling. Education is people and money and time and gimmicks are only that, gimmicks.
I’ve mentioned before that I grew up in a college town. The college town world I grew up in was very different from the institution-as-profit-center or “meritocratic” sorter of today. Well, those things existed but there was still the desire to support scholarship by supporting scholars.
In the world I grew up in, you could wait tables after class and on weekends, and still pay for school with very little debt at the end of it.
In the world I grew up in, you could get a tenure track position right out of you PhD program. Yes, you read that correctly, lurkers.
In the world I grew up in, scholars were recruited from all over the world, not simply a few celebrity scholars, but young newly graduated faculty and that faculty was given time to do research and the resources to do it.
The “metric” of success was publication, good publication, not necessarily in number, although numbers counted.
The overhead bureaucratic structure underscored all of this. There was very little overhead bureaucratic structure: a university President, a Dean, a Chairman/woman, and then some secretarial staff. After that, professors. Now everything is advertising, marketing, alumni, nontenured faculty scared of losing even what little they have, large classes and little time for research, with big dorms and gyms and wifi supposedly making up for all of it.
But the main point was to support the sort of people that wanted to do real and serious scholarship. The “usefulness” of it was to create the environment. The utilitarian part of it was the creation of the thing itself.
I’m sure I’ve created a little bit of a rosy-eyed-from-memory picture but it’s still a fairly accurate picture.
Why post this here? Well, one of the articles that mentioned America’s world class universities was by Gen. Petraeus (Belfer Center) and I thought, “good, bring that up but understand how that particular world is being hollowed out.” Or is it being hollowed out? These things are hard to see, sometimes, and hard to understand.
Well, in a comment sure to irritate everyone reading (is anyone still reading?), might as well use his powers for good instead of evil.
So Google is trying to diversify itself politically within Washington? I wonder how much of Senator McCain’s desire to reach out to Silicon Valley has to do with his connections to Valley executives. I’m sure it’s sincere and it may prove useful, but be careful. When the DOD does start handing out Silicon Valley contracts, just make sure you don’t get some silly waste-of-time online educational “product”. That would be great disservice to the military:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304856504579339031332776594
Dayahun says it’s obnoxious to haunt threads. He’s right. That’s why I’d rather comment on old threads, that way I can’t screw up the flow of conversation on more current topics and chase other commenters away.
From The Rice Paddy Navy – U.S. Sailors undercover in China, by Linda Kush (that old CBI theater stuff again):
From my scattershot notes, hand-written on lined paper, old school and impossibly old-fashioned, exactly as scribbled:
“YouTube Gresham College lectures on British 20th century elections, Churchill said could defend Empire against anybody but not the British people.
? different classes saw ineptness of managers of empire; myths fallen?!!!!”
COIN mythology relates to ignorance of our own history, how? Beyond Vietnam and its myths, so important to the COIN story?
PS: And the MS and everything. Like we are all playing out roles from a past we don’t even understand.
PPS: Gave me chills when I first read it. Years ago, on a trip to Italy, I saw an impossibly chic woman walking with a carved wooden cane, as fashionable as any object of art. “That’s how I’m going to do it, if it comes to that,” I remember thinking.
But you get older, see the world, realize you are blessed. Look at the refugee situation. How are we Americans so insecure when we have so much and so much to offer. Our size and control of land and resources ensures we are a player whether we wander abroad or not.