School of War Ep 241: Julian Jackson on Nazi-Occupied France and Pétain
Julian Jackson, Emeritus Professor of Modern French History at Queen Mary University of London and author of France on Trial: The Case of Marshal Pétain, joins the show to discuss the rise and fall of “the Lion of Verdun”; Philippe Pétain.
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01:06 Introduction
01:53 How Pétain became the “Hero of France” in WW1
11:32 France sues for peace with Germany in 1940
18:52 The legality of the armistice
27:49 Churchill’s take on the armistice
33:48 What Was Vichy France?
41:43 Vichy’s treatment of the Jews
53:05 Distancing France from extermination
58:13 Why does Pétain stay a servant to the Nazis
01:07:38 Vichy and Pétain on trial today
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