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Alleged Massacre in Kandahar, Afghanistan (Update 1)

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03.11.2012 at 04:02pm

In a developing situation, a single U.S. soldier has reportedly massacred up to 16 Afghan civilians, including women and children, in two villages in the Panjway district of Kandahar Province, Afghanistan.  The Washington Post report can be found here.

I will attempt to post major updates here, but the blog entry is not so much to keep readers informed, as this will be all over the internet, as it is for readers to comment on the developing situation.  

Missy Ryan, a Reuters correspondent, tweeted that villagers were reporting multiple soldiers took part in the massacre and that they were drunk.  The claims are not important so much for their possible veracity as they are for the narratives that will resonate in Afghanistan.  The U.S. military claims a single participant is already in custody.  The Embassy has released condolence messages in EnglishPashto and Dari.  ISAF has released a statement as well.  Note that the Embassy statements are on YouTube, perhaps a more effective means for a largely illiterate population, but I'm unsure how much reach even these statements will have.

Update 1:

The NY Times article from Monday's paper is one of the most thorough accounts to this point.

Early on Monday, with the attacker in the custody of American forces, the public mood in Kandahar and Kabul seemed subdued with no immediate sign of protests on the streets. …

In Panjwai, a reporter for The New York Times who inspected bodies that had been taken to the nearby American military base counted 16 dead, including five children with single gunshot wounds to the head, and saw burns on some of the children’s legs and heads. “All the family members were killed, the dead put in a room, and blankets were put over the corpses and they were burned,” said Anar Gula, an elderly neighbor who rushed to the house after the soldier had left. “We put out the fire.”

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kotkinjs1

Nothing productive will come from the situation…unless it somehow hastens our exit. We all know that, if true, this alleged act was as criminal and unconscionable as the targeted murders at MoI or the base in Zharey….and every other green-on-blue incident these past few years. But the bigger issue is that we all know these incidents show how meaningless our partnership is with the Karzai government. After every alleged CIVCAS incident during sanctioned ops, incidents like the one last night, or the inadvertent Koran burning, the Presidential Palace will be quick to use it to their political advantage, stoke the fires of anti-Americanism, and enable the Taliban.

To wit, less than 6 hrs after the event last night, the Palace makes the statement: “Afghan President Hamid Karzai condemned the rampage as “intentional murders” and demanded an explanation from the United States. His office said the dead included nine children and three women.” That’s pretty quick. Quick in comparison to how long it takes them to condemn, apologize, or even recognize an issue such as the MoI or Zharey incidents, the rioting at US installations sweeping across the country after the Koran burning thereby fanning the flames, or any other green-on-blue.

We all know this. The alleged incident in Panjwai is horrible but we all know how it’s going to turn out….profuse ISAF and American apologies (which have already started), investigations and results that do not meet the expectations or demands of the Afghans or GIRoA, and more fuel to the fire for Taliban info ops. This has already started with the Palace immediately releasing the above statement….so ‘unlike’ them when just such an incident requires calmer, cooler, and more responsible heads to prevail. We all know that won’t happen because when it comes to how they really feel about American’s being there, saving their country for them from themselves, calmer, cooler, and more responsible are not words that GIRoA understands because there’s more political gain to be made by doing the opposite when US troops are involved.

So what comments can really be made? We all know exactly the path this will take because we all understand the political environment that exists between GIRoA, the Afghan people, ISAF, and US interests. Finally, after Obama’s recent remarks about the need to start drawing down now, US politicians apparently have gotten the message too.

carl

This person or persons walk outside the wire, murders numerous Afghans apparently in their homes in the dead of night, then rather than staying outside the wire to face the Afghans, he or they walk back inside the wire where they know they will be protected. So from an Afghan point of view, the immediate reaction of the ISAF is to give sanctuary to a mass murderer. This is a nightmare and it will get worse fast. I don’t know how Karzai or any other Afghan in any position can do anything other than publically go wild with outrage over this.

gus.spier

At first reading, the story is incomprehensible. One split second later, it is unbelievable. Finally, the full impact of the distance between the environment “in country” and me here settles in.

I desperately want to hear the truth, the whole truth. And it is unlikely that I ever will.

Jeff Mix

One of our biggest problems in Afghanistan and was in Iraq is the notion that we are “saving their country for them from themselves.” This attitude is what leads to the large cultural disconnects and wasted billions of American taxpayer dollars. We often judge the situation on the ground by American standards which they will never meet. We begin projects for them for which they don’t ask. We throw money and manpower at a situation that they cannot fix. Then we wonder why the soldiers doing the job on the ground get frustrated to the breaking point (I am not condoning the soldiers actions here). We as a nation are not well suited for nation building and counterinsurgency in a muslim/tribal/mostly illiterate/unconnected nation. We fail miserably on the cultural and IO front. We often lean on technology when the only way to win is low tech human interaction (for which we are ill suited). At this point, conventional forces in Afghanistan can only serve to increase tensions as their perception of them as occupiers increases and the willingness of the Karzai regime to mitigate the tensions wanes. We have reached a tipping point in Afghanistan where our very visible presence will only be fuel for the Taliban’s IO.

We will not hand over the soldier (and we should not) that committed the massacre to Afghan authorities; therefore, the Afghans anger will not be quelled by anything the military courts decide. In their society, justice is local and they do not understand or care to understand our system.

The next issue I have boils down to one question: How does a soldier leave a FOB alone? What was their accountability procedures? The leadership definitely failed to maintain accountability here. Where was his “Ranger” buddy?

kotkinjs1

Jeff, nope – still stand by it (“One of our biggest problems in Afghanistan and was in Iraq is the notion that we are “saving their country for them from themselves”). If not for them, why else are we there? Does anyone still believe that we’re nationbuilding in Afghanistan for anyone else’s benefit or national interest other than the Afghans (or maybe our contractors or MIC)? Does anyone believe that this effort hasn’t become an end unto itself beyond all rational ways and means to accomplish it? Is DoD able to convince the American public of that? Maybe they can to 40% of us according to the latest polls and that points to a national will that is no longer there. So sure, that attitude might engender separation between us and them but almost 60% of taxpayers want us out – ‘precipitously’ – after 10 yrs of little to no tangible gain wrt national security strategy. And that has to be accounted for because war must achieve its political objective. And if national politics and consensus reflect the fact that the objective isn’t worth it in opposition to the resources continued to be committed, we’ve already screwed the pooch. Ultimately, you’re right in that there are cultural disconnects. But the fact that those disconnects remain in the way to the Afghans and US forces seeing eye-to-eye should point to the larger issue of what are we trying to accomplish in the first place.

The Pap

I think we can, unfortuntely, take “Alleged” off the title now.