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Obama’s Syria Plan Teams Up American and Russian Forces

Thu, 07/14/2016 - 4:52am

Obama’s Syria Plan Teams Up American and Russian Forces by Josh Rogin, Washington Post

The Obama administration’s new proposal to Russia on Syria is more extensive than previously known. It would open the way for deep cooperation between U.S. and Russian military and intelligence agencies and coordinated air attacks by American and Russian planes on Syrian rebels deemed to be terrorists, according to the text of the proposal I obtained.

Secretary of State John F. Kerry plans to discuss the plan with top Russian officials in a visit to Moscow on Thursday. As I first reported last month, the administration is proposing joining with Russia in a ramped-up bombing campaign against Jabhat al-Nusra, al-Qaeda’s Syria branch, which is also known as the Nusrah Front. What hasn’t been previously reported is that the United States is suggesting a new military command-and-control headquarters to coordinate the air campaign that would house U.S. and Russian military officers, intelligence officials and subject-matter experts.

Overall, the proposal would dramatically shift the United States’ Syria policy by directing more American military power against Jabhat al-Nusra, which unlike the Islamic State is focused on fighting the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. While this would expand the U.S. counterterrorism mission in Syria, it would also be a boon for the Assad regime, which could see the forces it is fighting dramatically weakened. The plan also represents a big change in U.S.-Russia policy. It would give Russian President Vladi­mir Putin something he has long wanted: closer military relations with the United States and a thawing of his international isolation. That’s why the Pentagon was initially opposed to the plan…

Read on.

Comments

Outlaw 09

Sun, 08/21/2016 - 3:53am

Supporting the #Russian 48hr truce means:
1. Breaching the already existing #Geneva US/Russian sponsored ceasefire for #Syria called the CoH
2. Supporting 5/7 days per week continued slaughter in #Aleppo

Besides Russia and Assad have....have .....have never held to the CoH, the so called Russian announced "regimes of silence"...and the Russian so called three hours a day ceasefire WITH THREE aid corridors THAT never existed ..SO why does Obama/Rhodes/Kerry and the UNSC truly believe Putin this time?

WHY was the Russian announcement timed for next week...so he and Assad can keep right on killing and attacking up to the unknown time they will "ceasefire".

This was the same Russian drill concerning the battle of Debaltseve in eastern Ukraine....Putin continued to fight there and took the town EVEN after signing Minsk 2....BY always "moving" the implementation timeline.

WOW the West has such a short memory these days....????

Outlaw 09

Sun, 08/21/2016 - 3:35am

Surprise, surprise.......the Kurds are awakening to the "simple fact" they have been duped by both Assad and Putin into thinking they would/could have their own governmental region and independence......

The Arab Sunni opposition forces have been warning them of exactly that problem but YPG/PYG/PKK/SDF sided openly and completely with Assad and Putin in attacking FSA opposition groups and towns.......

NOW they themselves are attacked and YET they are surprised.....?????

Assad warned them in his recent speech when he announced he was going to recapture the entire Syria and occupy Aleppo.....

More than 5 years into the war in #Syria, people in #Hasakah seem SHOCKED, #Assad is able to do such things ...

At least now the Kurds fully and completely understand just what the Arab Sunni's have been going through lately.....

A busy night at the hospital in #Aleppo after over 200 Russian/Assad airstrikes in one day #Syria

The Kurds have failed to understand that their way forward lies in working with the Syrian Arab Sunni's who actually have been largely over the years supportive of the idea of "federated areas"....

BUT they have been badly mislead by both the US and Russia......

Outlaw 09

Sun, 08/21/2016 - 2:11am

Daraya’s Only Hospital out of Service as Dozens of #BarrelBombs Pound the District
http://ow.ly/JGIX303qf

Part of the ongoing bombing of hospitals can in fact be contributed to DoS Kerry ......if we step back a couple of months to the last round of Geneva talks when the HNC walked away after countless Assad and Putin violations of the then so called CoH.....

REMEMBER DoS has had a CALL 0-800 us here in DC if you are being bombed or there is a Russian/Assad CoH violation....TO this day DoS has not made a single comment on Russian and or Assad violations......why is that???

Back to Geneva......... before and after Geneva .......Kerry very openingly threatened the Syrian opposition.....it is all there to be read and posted here as the comments occurred....several of his comments could in fact be seen as statements to the opposition to simply surrender and to agree to the Assad and Putin demands....BTW MUCH as he has done with the Ukrainians....

So now really Obama and Kerry have basically washed their hands as they only have 60 days or less in office so WHY "do nothing stupid"......????

Outlaw 09

Sun, 08/21/2016 - 2:09am

I keep going back to the interconnection between Ukraine and Syria that this WH has "done nothing stupid on".....

Many in the West have forgotten this event...MAYBE Obama/Rhodes/Kerry should reread it........might be worth their combined reading efforts.....

The Unsolved Mystery Behind the Act of Terror That Brought Putin to Power
http://bit.ly/2blbq05
Well known in Russia and Ukraine.

Remember non linear warfare does not stop at borders....and can in fact be very "global"....

Outlaw 09

Sat, 08/20/2016 - 12:34pm

Turkish artillery pounds Jarabulus, drones overhead, hundreds of FSA rebels wait to storm from inside Turkey.

Outlaw 09

Sat, 08/20/2016 - 11:27am

More #Assad terror.
This time a mortar attack on #Waer.
GRAPHIC!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0JeatvclZA

Extremely graphic!!!!!!
A black bag ... is all you need to collect the victims of the #AssadPutin shelling of #Homs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0Wm...ature=youtu.be

Footage
The moderate Syrian islamist rebels that liberated #AlRai from #ISIS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWU-YG9uR9w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HsGEjV2tYs

Just another day in Syria where the US decided in 2012..."to do nothing stupid".....

Footage
The #Assad air force targeted a busy market in #Douma.
VERY GRAPHIC!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_FV...has_verified=1

Hundreds of rebels enter #Turkey via #Azaz to attack #ISIS in #Jarablus from the Turkish side.

Turkey vetted #FSA massing @ #Karkamis for #Jarablus takeover. Footage shows vanguard crossing from #Azaz to #Kilis

Remember:
Hundreds of #Peshmerga forces entered #Turkey 2 years ago to attack #ISIS in #Kobane from the Turkish side.
Worked back then.

Outlaw 09

Fri, 08/19/2016 - 8:28am

In reply to by Outlaw 09

Just another day in Syria.....

Aleppo: Rebels killed the #Assad General Izzat Mohammad Hassan in Southern #Aleppo.

BIG....
Latakia: Rebels killed the #Assad "Desert Hawks" General Adnan Ali in Northern #Latakia.

The #FSA gave newly arrived Iraqi militias S of #Aleppo "a warm welcome".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0NhuxJWlKk

Pro-Regime forces retreating after failed attempt to advance towards #Aleppo Artillery base.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVwCrtaMw1g

Woman screaming for her life after another #AsssadPutin massacre.
Common world! Act shocked!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irN80aXorc4

Al-Ghantu today.
Just one of many terrible massacred by #AssadPutin on Friday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8bJYE-y1Yk

Extremely #graphic.
#Baby in #Homs prov. was not as lucky as #Omran.
Still love him world?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66Nr18n43Ro

There are THOUSANDS of #Omran|s and NOTHING will change if we don't stop #AssadPutun!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFUQvnX0lbs

Footage
Al-Rai after the liberation from #ISIS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPSMF_7QPWk

FastaqemUnion ‏@fko_union #FSA
#FastaqemUnion
#Syria
FSA revolutionists prevent #ISIS to sneak into liberated #Raie village in Northern Countryside of #Aleppo

AFTER the last night napalm attack on a hospital......
The hospital was entirely destroyed, he told me.
Now 8000 besieged civilians including 3000 children have NO medical assistance anymore.

Several pro-Regime KIA after being hit by 1st Regiment's #Fagot on Ramoussah front, #Aleppo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHUkmhqjVGE

Rebels repelled another attempt by pro-Regime forces to advance in 1070 Project and towards N. part of #Artillery base. #Aleppo

Pro-Regime forces retreating after failed attempt to advance towards #Aleppo Artillery base.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVwCrtaMw1g

Fagot strike by Jaish Mujahideen vs an alleged Hezbollah group in Al-Assad suburb, #Aleppo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmH64-KrCfg
#Aleppo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFUQvnX0lbs

First Regiment blew up with a #Fagot a T-55 in Ramoussah forcing pro-Regime to flee #Aleppo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAkNCM6RxI8

Outlaw 09

Fri, 08/19/2016 - 8:23am

Russia has violated repeatedly the Geneva CoH which actually still applies to all of Syria.

Russia violated multiple times their own proposed "regimes of silence" usually within minutes after they were to start.

Russia has violated within minutes their own proposed three hour windows of humanitarian aid for Aleppo....

Russia has now proposed 48 hour ceasefire SOMETIME next week...all they are doing is gaining more time to bomb....WHY the global community did not demand "immediately is beyond me"??????

AND I am taking bets for coffee here in Berlin...Russia will not hold to that ceasefire either......

Outlaw 09

Fri, 08/19/2016 - 8:21am

A dramatic step: #Russia has now killed (in 10 months) more civilians than #ISIS itself in 3 years via @snhr. #Syria
YET we call IS terrorists...AND Russia is what again?????

Good thing Obama and Hillary only founded ISIS and not the Russian military.

Outlaw 09

Fri, 08/19/2016 - 4:32am

In reply to by Outlaw 09

BUT F16s can fly over Kurdish positions????

Outlaw 09

Fri, 08/19/2016 - 4:31am

AND the Obama/Rhodes/Kerry WH continue to say absolutely nothing nor does the UNSC......how strange is that?

This is the 3rd time this #Daraya field hospital was targeted by Assad, mission accomplished now, hospital gone
https://youtu.be/USb9_fnKqFY

Daraya doctor on Assad's napalm barrel bomb attack at 1AM on last field hospital serving 8K+ civilians
https://youtu.be/1EAno6H6Tu4 #Syria

FSA News ‏@FSATruth · 8h8 hours ago
#Breaking #Daraya
Urgently trying to put out fires burning their only hospital dropped by regime barrelbombs tonight

FSA News ‏@FSATruth · 9h9 hours ago
#Breaking
The only field hospital in #Daraya now totally out of service as hit by regime napalm bomb this evening

Aftermath of a Russian airstrike on al-Hal local market in Hawr, west rural #Aleppo today
https://youtu.be/iuFqp6_cIHM

Outlaw 09

Fri, 08/19/2016 - 4:18am

It is just not only about Syria where the Obama WH FP has failed......

Russian defence ministry proud about "fire mushrooms" it has planted during a drill near Estonian border
https://twitter.com/zvezdanews/statu...47123584192515

WTH?
Russian Army TV: large-scale military exercises in Pskov Oblast called "NATO soldiers surrender"
https://twitter.com/zvezdanews/statu...45912197812224

Latitude 67N SIGINT @Sigint67n
RUAF strategic AF sw net up with voice and W marker. Tu95/160 active today?

Now at least 19 airborne, it could be Tu-160/Tu-95/Tu-22s. Syria or some "Dooms day drill"

My comment....there have never been this many airborne at one time in the last say ten years.....highly unusual whatever it is.....

Outlaw 09

Fri, 08/19/2016 - 3:56am

In reply to by Outlaw 09

Valid social media comment posted this morning.....

There's 5 years of 1000s of little Omrans being blown up in Syria, finally there's one photo to make people care for a day or so. Progress!

Outlaw 09

Fri, 08/19/2016 - 3:50am

In reply to by Outlaw 09

SCD first responder killed by a Russian "double tap" air strike on first responders last night...

whitehelmets - idlib @whitehelmets_sy
we are tired and sad in lost another hero today
WhiteHelmets Hero Manar abo Mohammad in daraya.
May he rest in peace

AND the Obama/Kerry WH "celebrated as a success in their talks" the Russian announced 48 hour ceasefire SOMETIME next week AFTER they have flattened virtually anything opposition town/village in the coming days...

What a "celebration" as Putin has lied about every ceasefire Russia has previously announced on Syria and especially eastern Ukraine where there is now a full scale war ongoing....

Outlaw 09

Fri, 08/19/2016 - 3:39am

I have often posted here geopolitical reasons to stand up to Assad, economic, counter-terrorism, genocide, war crimes...Iranian revolutionary islam ....Hezbollah..... all's left is little kids who are dodging bombs and napalm because we adults cannot act...sad..really sad

Devastated little kid screams 4 his mom after surviving an Assad airstrike on Douma ystrday. No idea if mom made it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEvriHq1s_Y
Again rescued by the White Helmets SCD....who have been nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize for their selfless actions in the face of death and destruction...AND Obama got his for what again?????

WILL not post this video....
Aftermath of another Assad barrelbomb on civilians. Little kid drowning in his own blood:"Where's dad? Where?" #Syria

From 13 December 2015.....
Syria: [Vid is NOT graphic] Just c the fear in the kid's eyes as he takes cover frm anther incoming Assad airstrike

As one (VN SF vet, served in Kuwait and worked in Iraq) who has been viewing open source videos for use in troop training and analysis from first Iraq starting 2004 and now from Syria...yes one get's use to the violence, blood and destruction.....

BUT what I cannot get use to now with this Obama WH is the total "apathy" expressed in their concept of a "do nothing stupid" FP....

Outlaw 09

Fri, 08/19/2016 - 3:08am

A dramatic step: Russia has now killed (in 10 months) more civilians than ISIS itself in 3 years via @snhr.

YET we call IS terrorists...AND Russia is what again?????

The concept of "morale values and humanity" appear to be missing from this WH as well as "risk taking/courage"......BUT that can be expected when one is driven by "doing nothing stupid"...

Outlaw 09

Thu, 08/18/2016 - 3:13pm

AND for Aleppo where both Assad and Putin are committing war crimes and genocide THERE is not a single F16 available...seriously?????

Breaking coalition warplane force Syrian regimes one to leave #Hasakah sky, now F16 above #Hasakah

AND Obama/Rhodes/Kerry have so often stated a NFZ is not viable....?????

Appears that Obama WH does not quite get the perception they are now creating among the Syrian Arab Sunni....that when it comes to Sunni's they have a "golden handshake" with Putin that allows Assad and Putin to kill as many of them as they want to WHILE the US protects only Kurds.....

Reports US warplanes overflying #Hasakah to prevent SyAF from making further airstrikes on Kurdish forces.

Airstrikes on hospitals,schools,women, children & baby food is OK otherwise. Utterly & completely despicable if true

Regime jets targeted this truck transporting children's milk in Maarit Anuman, killing driver & dumping milk on road

Outlaw 09

Thu, 08/18/2016 - 1:55pm

Those "moderate Iranians' of the Obama Iran Deal are at it again...and not in a good way....

Breaking Hezbollah
Announce Kurds as Zionist in north Syria to legalize the fight against them

Syria reports claiming NDF are advancing in al-Nashwa district #Hasakah
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=36.496459&lon=40.750179&z=14&m=bs&sho…

Airstrikes reported for the first time on Kurdish positions in #Hasakah during clashes with Regime forces.

Dozen civilians killed today in #Hasaka city by airstirkes, artillery shelling & street fights btw #Assad-forces & kurdish militias

NDF have captured Amal school & New Hospital while Asayish did not capture Bassel roundabout and have been on the defensive so far

2 SyAAF air raids on Hasakah so far, a number of Asayish & YPG bases/HQs have been hit including in al-Mushirfah 3km NW of Hasakah

NDF advance inside neighbourhoods north of city centre amid airstrikes/artillery, YPG evacuate from Tell Baydar conscription/training base

Syria'n airforce conducted strikes on 8 positions of kurdish militias (Barriers & HQs) in #Hasaka city & outskirts

5 people killed by regime artillery shelling on #Hasaka city neighborhood

Exodus from #Hasaka city
-flee battle btw regime forces & kurdish militias
https://youtu.be/ZANKeHjph6Q

Outlaw 09

Thu, 08/18/2016 - 1:19pm

No totally clean option on any side in Syria: one can engage anyway and shape the battlefield, or not.
http://bit.ly/2bjsKOO
v @AbuJamajem

The Obama WH has chosen not to shape the battlefield and that is their most serious FP mistake in the last eight years......but again he never served in the military....

Kyle W. Orton ‏@KyleWOrton
.@SonerCagaptay for the @WashInstitute on the joint Moscow-Assad role in founding the #PKK
http://washin.st/2b3PJ2M

Maybe worth reading for those that do not fully understand the lineage of the PKK a US defined terror group to the current US Kurdish proxy YPG/PYG and the SDF....

Outlaw 09

Thu, 08/18/2016 - 1:40pm

In reply to by Outlaw 09

Aleppo doctors sending an unbearable stream of pictures of kids killed so far today. Most are too graphic to share.

YET the West especially the Obama WH remains totally silent .......

Russia offers a 48 hour ceasefire BUT WAIT Aleppo is suppose to be already part and parcel of the Russian/US COH and Russia has stated there are three so called aid corridors that no one seems able to find AND Russia has stated that is to be already a 3 hour ceasefire every 24 hours....

BUT until now it has been basically all Russian lies believed only by Obama and Kerry it seems.....

Outlaw 09

Thu, 08/18/2016 - 1:31pm

Baby Blankets, BabyFood and Babies.
The number 1 Assad/Putin "terrorist" targets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XOMRbEIt9g

Jihadist/terrorist truck carrying weapons neutralized by an airstrike near Maarrat Al-Numan, #Idlib. Driver killed.
IT WAS CARRYING BOXES OF BABY FOOD.......

Since morning #Assad/#Russia warplanes hit #Aleppo's new road (Alramousah) +20 times using cluster bombs
Russian attempts to cut aid route into Aleppo....WHILE claiming wanting to assist in future aid deliveries....

NFZ for Hasakah is no problem but for Aleppo is impossible

If this does not feed the Islamist extremist narrative of the US ...then I do not know what will in the coming years.....

Outlaw 09

Fri, 08/19/2016 - 2:49am

In reply to by Outlaw 09

Dear Richard,

I live just 300 metres from the attack. Just after 7PM, following the evening prayers, we heard the explosions. I rushed there with three other media activists.

The first thing I saw was three bodies on the ground being carried into an ambulance. Those were the neighbours of Omran’s family. The building was totally destroyed - all six floors were now rubble.

Then I looked up to see another building half destroyed - Omran’s house. The White Helmet rescue workers climbed the stairs of a building nearby as the stairs at Omran’s house were destroyed. I joined in to help.

The first survivor they picked up was Omran and I took my camera and started filming. I found out later that he is just four years old.

It was too dark for good footage but I continued to film and followed him. The White Helmet carried the boy to the ambulance and laid him on the chair. I kept filming. It was then that I realized how traumatized the boy was and I changed the camera from filming to take a still picture.

The tears started to drop as I took the photo. It is not the first time I’ve cried. I have cried many times while filming traumatized children. I always cry. We war photographers always cry. Last night everyone cried.

Omran affected me because he was silent. He didn’t cry. He didn’t say a word. He was shocked.

I thought of my 7 day old baby girl. I thought to myself it could be her. It could be any child in Aleppo or Syria.

The White Helmets team continued to rescue the family members. Omar’s eldest sister who is 11 looked at me and said please don't film. I turned off my camera and told her, “sure my darling, I will not”.

Thank God all Omran’s family are safe. His mother had some bad injuries on her legs. His father suffered a minor head injury. His 7 year old sister went through a surgical operation this afternoon and she is doing well.

Today when I woke up to see the whole world using the photo and talking about it I thought to myself, I hope all photos of children and attacks in Syria go viral so the world knows what life is like here.

If people know what it is like maybe the war will stop, the bombing will stop. Maybe Omran and my daughter Amal can live normally like all children in the world.

Yours,
Mahmoud Rislan, Aleppo

Outlaw 09

Thu, 08/18/2016 - 4:34am

The story behind the video. His name is Omran and he is 5 years old #Aleppo #Syria
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-1...nflict/7761322

This boy was rescued by the SCD......he had been buried under the bomb debris of his destroyed home....SCD was still looking for his parents....

Russian warplanes failed to kill this terrorist...wonder if he at five fulfills the Obama WH definition of what a "moderate" Syrian "looks like?....apparently not.....

BUT WAIT the Russians will eventually air strike the hospital M10 where he is being treated........OR "double tap" the SCD ambulance he is being carried in...OR "double tap" the SCD who were still digging for survivors from this deliberate Russian air strike on civilians not IS......

REMEMBER what Obama in 2014 publicly stated....QUOTE "we will judge Putin by his actions not his words"...UNQUOTE.

BTW...since the West including Obama/Kerry are not doing anything for Aleppo or Syria in general...praise must go to the UK who has been providing these ambulances and volunteer medical personnel into Aleppo...at least they try and have a certain empathy for humanity.....something totally missing from the "do nothing stupid" Obama Syrian FP......

Remember when Obama could have engaged into Syria in 2012 we had only 7,000 killed Syrians....now four years later that number stands at 470,000 to 500,000 and growing daily via Russian iron dumb bombs, cluster incendiary munitions, thermobaric bombs, and now napalm munitions....

Photo of the bewildered/stunned child is posted on the Syrian thread....

REMEMBER it has been the Salafist jihadi's and FSA that have been fighting to relieve Aleppo from the Assad/Putin besieging and starvation NOT Obama and or the West.....

Outlaw 09

Thu, 08/18/2016 - 3:07am

Think what might in fact occur to IS if Syrians (Arab Sunni's) actually got the support that the US has flowed into their Kurdish terrorist proxies YPG/SDF/PKK??????

The solution to IS has been always Syrian Arab Sunni boots on the ground...BUT the Obama WH "smoke screened" everything behind the myth and debate of who is or is not a "moderate".......

The core question is...can anyone really be a "moderate" in the face of constant genocide, war crimes, torture, starvation, besieging, barrel bombs, CWs, thermite cluster munitions, and now napalm??????

Those are the guys,fighting #ISIS in #Syria w/ minimal foreign support.
They liberated #Rai.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjI8I8OtDxY

Outlaw 09

Thu, 08/18/2016 - 2:56am

This is exactly what the Obama/Rhodes WH "do nothing stupid" has gotten the US image wise into...that we both support and are complicit in genocide and war crimes...especially now with the use by Assad and Putin of napalm like bombs which is a true war crime......

Democracy Now! ‏@democracynow
"Civilians are suffering every day," says Syrian physician @sahloul. "This is the tragedy we are living in."
http://www.democracynow.org/2016/8/1...se_than_hell_a

Ten Times Worse Than Hell: A Syrian Doctor on the Humanitarian Catastrophe in Aleppo

August 17, 2016

Quote:

In the latest escalation of the war in Syria, Russia has begun launching airstrikes from an Iranian air base. The New York Times reports this marks the first time since World War II that a foreign military has operated from a base on Iranian soil. The move comes as fighting has intensified around Aleppo, Syria’s largest city. Earlier this month, rebels fighting the Syrian government began a new offensive to break an ongoing government-backed siege of the city. The rebels have been led in part by an offshoot of the Nusra Front, which up until last month had been aligned with al-Qaeda. The International Committee of the Red Cross has described the fight for Aleppo as "beyond doubt one of the most devastating urban conflicts in modern times." The United Nations is warning of a dire humanitarian crisis as millions are left without water or electricity. For more on the humanitarian and medical crisis in Syria, we speak with Dr. Zaher Sahloul, founder of the American Relief Coalition for Syria and senior adviser and former president of the Syrian American Medical Society. He has visited Aleppo five times since the war began.

TRANSCRIPT

This is a rush transcript. Copy may not be in its final form.

JUAN GONZÁLEZ: In the latest escalation of the war in Syria, Russia has begun launching airstrikes from Iranian air bases—an air base. The New York Times reports this marks the first time since World War II that a foreign military has operated from a base on Iranian soil. The move comes as fighting has intensified around Aleppo, Syria’s largest city. Earlier this month, rebels fighting the Syrian government began a new offensive to break an ongoing government-backed siege of the city. The rebels have been led in part by an offshoot of the Nusra Front, which, up until last month, had been aligned with al-Qaeda. The International Committee of the Red Cross has described the fighting for Aleppo as, quote, "beyond doubt one of the most devastating urban conflicts in modern times." The United Nations is warning of a dire humanitarian crisis, as millions are left without water or electricity. This is U.N. spokeswoman Alessandra Vellucci.

ALESSANDRA VELLUCCI: The commission is gravely concerned for the safety of civilians, including a reported 100,000 children living in eastern Aleppo city, where violence has reached new heights in recent weeks as asymmetric warfare intensifies over control of armed group-held neighborhoods and their principal remaining supply lines.

AMY GOODMAN: On Tuesday, a British aid worker named Tauqir Sharif described the dire situation in Aleppo in this video he posted online.

TAUQIR SHARIF: I’ve just had to watch a woman lose three of her children, who were killed—OK?—and crying over their dead bodies. Thirty people just got killed not far from here in place called Shaar [inaudible]. We were just there yesterday. In a marketplace, 30 people just got killed. So, we’ve had so many dead bodies. You can hear what’s going on here. So, my dear brothers and sisters, please keep us in your duas. We need to get the message out right now. Hospitals are being targeted. People are being killed. OK? And war crimes are being committed. We need a no-fly zone in Syria. We need everybody to start voting for a no-fly zone. This is a massacre going on. This is a genocide.

JUAN GONZÁLEZ: Last week, 15 of the last 35 doctors in rebel-held eastern Aleppo wrote a letter to President Obama calling for help in getting humanitarian aid to 300,000 civilians trapped in the area and an end to Syrian and Russian bombardment of the besieged city. The letter said that there is an attack on medical facilities every 17 hours, and doctors were being forced to decide who will live and who will die.

AMY GOODMAN: According to the humanitarian group Physicians for Human Rights, there have been more than 370 attacks on 265 medical facilities during the five-year conflict, as well as the deaths of 750 medical personnel. Overall, the death toll in the five-year Syrian conflict has reached close to half a million people. The ongoing war has displaced about half the prewar population, with more than 6 million Syrians displaced inside Syria and nearly 5 million Syrian refugees outside Syria’s borders.

To find about about more the humanitarian and medical crisis in Syria, we’re joined by Dr. Zaher Sahloul, founder of the American Relief Coalition for Syria and senior adviser and former president of the Syrian American Medical Society. He’s visited Aleppo five times since the war began. Last week, he addressed the U.N. Security Council on the humanitarian crisis in Syria. He was a classmate of Bashar al-Assad in medical school. Dr. Sahloul is a critical care specialist in Chicago.

Welcome to Democracy Now!, Doctor.

DR. ZAHER SAHLOUL: Thank you for having me.

AMY GOODMAN: When you heard about the latest attack, even since you’ve just returned from Aleppo, Russia attacking from Iran, your thoughts? And then describe Aleppo to us.

DR. ZAHER SAHLOUL: I mean, my thoughts and my colleagues’ thoughts from Aleppo, which I keep contacts every minute with them, is the same, that everyone is bombing Syrians, and no one cares about ending the crisis. So it looks like the Russians are having fun bombing Syria from different parts, now added Iran to this, Iran bases. The coalition are bombing parts of Syria. They are bombing ISIS and also civilians. The Assad regime is bombing, you know, cities and historic sites and civilians, with barrel bombings and all kind of weapons. The Iranians are bombing Syrians. So everyone is bombing Syrians.

And this is really the story that is not being told in the media. I mean, when people know about Syria or hear about Syria, they think it’s something related to ISIS or that it’s something that is complicated. But what’s happening, that civilians are suffering every day. Children are being mutilated and killed with barrel bombs and air missile bombs. Hospitals are targeted. Schools are targeted. Fruit markets are targeted. And historic sites, like the Old City of Aleppo, are being destroyed. So this is the tragedy that we are living in. We had half a million people killed in Syria so far, half of the population displaced. And so far, we don’t have a light at the end of the tunnel.

JUAN GONZÁLEZ: And in terms—you mentioned barrel bombs. What exactly are those, and who is dropping them?

DR. ZAHER SAHLOUL: Barrel bombs are an invention of the Syrian regime. It’s a very cheap way to manufacture weapons of mass destruction. I’ve seen it, in my eyes, and the victims also of barrel bombs in my several missions to Syria, especially to the city of Aleppo. So these are barrels that—big barrels stuffed with TNT, half a ton of TNT, and shrapnels, metal shrapnels. And they come in all kind of sizes and shapes. And they’re thrown from helicopters on urban areas, on hospitals, on blocks, on civilian neighborhoods, on fruit markets, on schools. And it can cause a lot of destruction. I’ve seen them. I took pictures of the victims. I took pictures of the buildings that have been destroyed with barrel bombs. It’s a weapon of mass destruction. It’s a dumb bomb; it’s not a smart bomb. And it can kill a lot of people.

And the only thing I’ve seen—you know, when you go to Aleppo, and this is something that, you know, if you go there—and you will see children pointing to the sky, and then you see this dot, which is the helicopter, and you hear the sound, the chop-chop-chop of the helicopter. And then this dot will throw another dot, which is the barrel, and then you have 30 to 40 seconds to run and hide from the barrel, or you can pray, because you don’t know where this barrel will hit. And it’s happening day after day for the past three years. It caused a lot of displacement. Let’s not forget that 2 million of the people of Aleppo are displaced, either inside Syria or became refugees, because of the barrel bombing. And it’s done by the Assad regime, of course. No one else has helicopters.

JUAN GONZÁLEZ: And how are the medical facilities and hospitals able to function on a day-to-day basis, if you could talk about that? I mean, what’s the relationship between the various rebel groups and the hospitals? Do they interfere with your work? And is the government paying for the salaries of these doctors? Or—talk about the system, how it’s operating.

Continued......

THIS full interview needs to be inhaled by the Obama WH/entire NSC and then they need to seriously ask themselves the following question....."have we abandoned humanity and our own morals" in order to "not do something stupid".......

Yes might just their own answer of they are honest with themselves......

Outlaw 09

Thu, 08/18/2016 - 2:43am

In reply to by Outlaw 09

BUT the ground reality is what again?????

August 13: #Assad and #Russia airstrikes destroy Kafar Hamra Pediatric Hospital in #Aleppo
http://ow.ly/6dsr303cXtT

SAMS ‏@sams_usa
"‘Surrender or starve’ strategy signals deeper agony ahead for civilians in #Aleppo, @UN panel warns"
http://bit.ly/2byB6nv

Outlaw 09

Thu, 08/18/2016 - 2:37am

WHY is it that many do not openly in the US MSM and critical US MSM call out the current Obama/Rhodes/Kerry WH FP on Syria what it really is...a complete farce" designed to spin and misled the general public into thinking that "doing nothing stupid" is in fact a great viable strategic strategy?????

@washingtonpost recalls @POTUS once said stopping atrocities is a core US interest, but he did nothing for Aleppo.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.803bdbf2d87e

As Aleppo is destroyed, Mr. Obama stands by

By Editorial Board August 16

Quote:

“DEVASTATING AND overwhelming.” Those are the conditions in the ancient and once-great metropolis of Aleppo, according to the head of delegation for the International Committee of the Red Cross, Marianne Gasser, who was in the Syrian city recently.

“We hear that dozens of civilians are being killed every day and scores more injured from shells, mortars and rockets,” Ms. Gasser said. “The bombing is constant. The violence is threatening hundreds of thousands of people’s lives, homes and livelihoods.”

War crimes appear to be near-constant also. The air forces of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his chief backer, Russian President Vladi#mir Putin, target apartment buildings, bakeries and — this is their specialty — hospitals and clinics. The United Nations is investigating credible reports that Mr. Assad again has used chemical weapons, in this case chlorine gas. Water has been cut off from hundreds of thousands of people.

The last surviving physicians in the rebel-held half of Aleppo a few days ago begged President Obama to help. “The world has stood by and remarked how ‘complicated’ Syria is, while doing little to protect us,” they wrote. “The burden of responsibility for the crimes of the Syrian government and its Russian ally must therefore be shared by those, including the United States, who allow them to continue.”

Why would these brave, forlorn doctors look to Mr. Obama for rescue? Perhaps one of them, through the terrible din of war, remembers hearing the president promise to stand by the Syrian people as they were being “subjected to unspeakable violence, simply for demanding their universal rights.”

Mr. Obama made his pledge during an address at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in April 2012. He boasted that he had decreed, in a first for any U.S. president, that preventing mass atrocities “is a core national security interest and a core moral responsibility of the United States of America.” That did not mean that the United States would “intervene militarily every time there’s an injustice in the world,” he cautioned. But when it came to Syria, Mr. Obama was clear.

“The Syrian people have not given up, which is why we cannot give up,” Mr. Obama said. “And so with allies and partners, we will keep increasing the pressure, with a diplomatic effort to further isolate Assad and his regime, so that those who stick with Assad know that they are making a losing bet.”

Alas, that was many atrocities ago. According to the Red Cross, more than 12 million Syrians — half the prewar population — have been forced from their homes, with millions more under siege. Hundreds of thousands have been killed. Well over 1 million have been wounded. Iran and Russia continue to place their bets on the Assad regime. And Mr. Obama no longer pledges to stand with the Syrian people, though he remains clear-eyed about what they are facing.

“The regime and its allies,” Mr. Obama observed at a Pentagon news conference this month, are engaged in “vicious attacks on defenseless civilians, medieval sieges against cities like Aleppo, and blocking food from reaching families that are starving.”

But the administration’s response has not changed: a combination of halfhearted support for the rebels, who increasingly gravitate by necessity to more extremist groups; requests to the Russians to behave better; and finger wagging.

“It is deplorable,” the president said during his visit to the Pentagon. Small comfort to the people of Aleppo.

BUT again this WH is great with WORDS....."we will judge Putin by this actions not his words"..2014...and this was for eastern Ukraine and now two full years later still nothing is being done to counter Putin's actions......

Outlaw 09

Thu, 08/18/2016 - 2:23am

In reply to by Outlaw 09

BUT worst of all this Obama/Rhodes/Kerry WH has all but abandoned the so called "US values" in the face of proven genocide and war crimes something the US claimed since Clinton they would not tolerate...BUT apparently with this WH they are both complicit and do tolerate it........

Ambulances full of children.
3 killed,17 wounded in another #AssadPutin massacre in #Aleppo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cfBmRW3isc

Syria: exclusive look into a #Aleppo field hospital, terrorized daily by #Assad warplanes
https://youtu.be/U7Y_46OE35Q

This will be in the end the "legacy" on Obama in the ME...that he contributed and yes was complicit in the killing of 470,000 Syrians, the displace of over 3M IPDs and 7M refugees, allowed CW to still be used, allowed over 780,000 to be starved and besieged and allowed over 120,000 Assad Arab Sunni prisoners to be tortured and killed.....

Inside Saydnaya: Syria's Torture Prison. The story of Assad's torture regime recreated by survivor testimony.
https://youtu.be/ysgnadic3Yo
Confirmed by UNSC, AI, HRW .........

ALL in order to "do nothing stupid".......

Outlaw 09

Thu, 08/18/2016 - 2:04am

Is the Obama/Rhodes/Kerry WH simply marking time until their replacements come in 90 or so days.....afraid so.....and around them their eight years of FP failures are catching up with them.....as sometimes force needs to be used AND just "talking" with get you nowhere......

1. Russian air strikes being flown from Iranian bases in full violation of the Iran Deal UNSC Resolution and even violating the Iranian Constitution AND the still ongoing Assad/Putin continuing genocide and constant war crimes against humanity

2. full support of the US Kurdish proxy YPG which is really just a fig leaf cover for the Kurdish terrorist group PKK which is now headed towards a major clash with the anti Assad forces from FSA/JFS AND Turkey AND KSA......

3. the Obama full support for Iran as the coming regional hegemon in the ME

4. the Obama support for Putin's FP in Central Europe and the ME

5. ATO reported a record number (96) of Russian attacks in Donbas y/day with all types of weapons from small arms to 152-mm heavy artillery

BTW....Based on the attack statistics from 2015 an average of over 50 attacks per day was considered to be full scale combat operations.

That has for 2016 dropped to 40 per day and with 96 yesterday Ukraine and Russia are in a full war mode...

Heavy #RUS artillery working around #Donetsk, #Horlivka and #Avdeevka.
#UKR returns heavy fire with same weapons.

There were constant stream of reports of heavy and long UAF convoys with troops and heavy equipment moving up close to the limits set by Minsk 2....regardless of what the West and particularly Obama think...UAF is anticipating a Russian invasion.....

This Obama WH through their total lack of a coherent, clear and concise set of national level strategic strategies has contributed greatly to an increased level of violence globally than at any time in the last 30 or so years......

AND this from a Nobel Peace Prize winner....who would have thought possible???

Outlaw 09

Wed, 08/17/2016 - 1:06pm

Does the US fully understand that the clash of clashes is coming.....apparently not.....

Aleppo: Rebels and #YPG/#SDF are now just 20 kilometers away from each other.

Kyle W. Orton ‏@KyleWOrton
#Syria: "[#PYD] leaders…have previously claimed that…Manbij, Al-Bab and Azaz are all historically part of Rojava."

State Dept gives strong impression it won't be asking #PYD to withdraw east of the Euphrates
http://bit.ly/2aY3xvt

Remember the Turkish FM has clearly and concisely stated PYD must withdraw east of the Euphrates.....that is their "red line" AND that is what Obama told Erdogan....

Outlaw 09

Wed, 08/17/2016 - 9:01am

In reply to by Outlaw 09

Syrian thread continues......

CrowBat......this is just getting worse...........

Khamenei adviser Valayati: #Russia using our bases isn't surprising; we have reached a series of military deals with Moscow. (Who is 'we'?)

NOW the chicken comes home to roost.....

Granting Russia base facilities agreed in Gen. Soleimani's visit to Moscow & Putin's Tehran meeting with Khamenei, claims IRGC agency FARS.

WOW.......now we know just why Obama and Rhodes "spun Congress"............

MASSIVE if anywhere close to being 100% correct........

Deputy Foreign Min.#Araqchi: #Obama gave us private assurance to sideline even sanctions not related to nuclear issue & rein in #US Congress

THIS would seriously explain a number of recent Iranian complaints that made no sense to anything in the "public" Iran Deal narrative......

AND why the recently released "secret document indicating an Iranian ability in ten years to build a bomb" was piled under a massive Obama WH narrative denying the document was correct......

Outlaw 09

Wed, 08/17/2016 - 8:42am

Taken from the Syrian thread today and it goes to the heart of the failure of the Obama Rhodes full tilt to Iran during the Iran Deal.....

You're going to love this one, Outlaw...

A U.S. official says the Russian bombers that used an Iranian air base to attack militants in Syria have

Namely... while it might be so that the Tu-22M-3s 'only' made something like 'refuelling stop' at TFB.3 (sort of, i.e. with at least two nights in between), and might have returned to Russia ever since (this is still waiting for a confirmation), Keystone Cops in Moscow are announcing further air strikes in Syria as flown by Nojeh AB, this time by their Su-34s.

So, it's all the same story, just a different aircraft. :roll:

*********

Ah yes... as promised, my take of this comedy-deployment to Iran: Russia Has Deployed Backfire Bombers to Iran

(Note: it was also a violation of the IRI Constitution that brought the IRIAF into a situation where it cannot fly such missions on its own. Then, the same Constitution is dictating that the government is responsible for properly equipping and training its armed forces - yet Tehran is ignoring its own air force.)

CrowBat....western MSM and yes the DoS still has not picked up on this yet........

TEHRAN-Islamic Majlis Security Committee head Borujerdi: High Council of Security approved base for Russia.(But it doesn't have that right!)

Islamic High Council of Security head #Shamkhani:#Russia can use any of our bases.

TEHRAN- Foreign Ministry briefing reporters informally, claims it didn;'t know permission was given to Russia to use Iran's Nozheh Air Base.

TEHRAN:-Islamic Majlis member Falaht-Pisheh:Use of Iranian base by Russia is violation of Articles 146 &176 of Islamic Republic Constitution

TEHRAN-Islamic Majlis Speaker Larijani: We've not been informed of granting any base to Russia but cooperate with Russia to protect Syria..

It is quite possible that Foreign Ministry, even #Rouhani weren't told of #Russian use of Iranian bases. Their role is to hoodwink the West.

Did Putin invade Iran also? Nobody in Iran seems to know how Russians appeared inside Iran...maybe some "little green Iranians dropped in from Mars"......

So Iran is not only in violation of UNSC 2231 you are right they even violated their very own constitution.......BUT again these are the "moderates" that Obama and Rhodes feels should be the next regional hegemon in the ME......

WHOA...now the highest Obama supported "moderate" gets into the act......

Neither #Islamic #Majlis nor #Russian #Douma have even discussed use of Iranian military bases. Private deal between #Putin & #Khamenei?

WOW.....a neo imperialist working with a Revolutionary Islamist bent on defending the Islamic Revolutionary Islam declared by Khomeini throughout the ME...WHO would have thought this possible in the 21st century?????

SO is Putin not a member of the ROC but rather a "closet Islamist at heart".....his FSB certainly is......

Outlaw 09

Wed, 08/17/2016 - 4:02am

Syrian commenter tends to sum up the Obama/Rhodes/Kerry WH Syrian FP......in one tweet.....

2016 is when #USA "ensures safety" of #RUS bombers flying fr.#Iran 2kill children in #Syria.

Outlaw 09

Wed, 08/17/2016 - 3:27am

If one wants to vote for an organization that truly does deserve the Nobel Peace Prize for their efforts....this group deserves it ........and a number have paid the ultimate price by being killed in deliberate Russian air strikes on them during their rescue operations.....commonly called a Russian "double tap on first responders and their ambulances".....

whitehelmets - idlib ‏@whitehelmets_sy
from the rubble we stand ..
save your life , save syria
humanity heroes #WhiteHelmets
https://nobelpeaceprize.whitehelmets.org/en

This was the same organization that the US Homeland Security (DHS) recently placed their director back on a plane when he arrived in the US on a valid US Embassy issued visa in order to receive a humanitarian aid award for his organization.....

DHS had responded to a number of fake Russian troll tweets that he was a member of AQ.....

BTW...the Obama WH never said a word about this incident....

Outlaw 09

Wed, 08/17/2016 - 3:12am

From a Syrian thread exchange today....

Azor..
Russian Use of an Iranian Airbase

Does this violate Iran's Constitution?

Article 146: "The establishment of any kind of foreign military base in Iran, even for peaceful purposes, is forbidden."

US shared bases under other countries' administration seem to count as US bases (e.g. Incirlik)...

CrowBat..
No, according to all possible Assad/Putler fans: it does not.

Then, you know, TFB.3/Nojeh AB was already there, and was not established by Russians.

That's the same like that with shields citing 'smoking prohibited': means only that one can't smoke cigarettes in the designated areas. Cigars and pots are permitted, 'of course'...

Outlaw 09..
Worth noting,
1. Russia and Iran do not have a SOFA
2. Russia has interpreted all UNSC decisions and the Iran Deal based on exactly what Iran states
3. Iran has not stated exactly what the conditions were under which they "gave a portion of their airfield entirely to the RuAF.....

ALSO worth noting was the comment yesterday by the Russian Duma rep stating Russia has nukes in Syria....THAT got no play by western MSM.....and it was a further reinforcement of a previous Russian source indicating that "maybe long term" Russia wanted to station nukes in Syria.....in order to surround NATO....

BUT if one relooks the total Russian support now to Iran.....Russian nukes are a given as it balances the Iranian defense against Israeli nukes and those US nukes in Turkey..and reinforces Hezbollah if they go to war with Israel......AND it gives Russia long term a solid voice in any ME developments and or agreements.....

THAT was the reason behind the sudden rush by Putin to have the Duma stamp of approval on the Russian/Syrian SOFA....

BUT what is really interesting is that the US DoS did not walk back their statement so that tells me they fully believe Russia is in violation of the 2231.......

NOTE further US statements.....

US: #Russian use of #Iran base unhelpful, but won't derail #Syria deal talks

At this point Russia can do almost everything and not derail the talks. The U.S. Won't do a thing

Outlaw 09

Wed, 08/17/2016 - 3:34am

For those SWJ readers who still do not believe there is a connection between eastern Ukraine and Syria.......

Let this single photo remind the Obama/Rhodes/Kerry WH that indeed there is a war ongoing in Central Europe...a war started by a clear Russian invasion of eastern Ukraine with over 14,000 Russian troops and hundreds of Russian tanks least we forget that......AFTER the blatant Russian military annexation of Crimea the first clear and concise European border changes by force since the Wall came down......

War in Shyrokyne, Ukr, June 4, 2016. Photographers Dmitry Muravskiy MoD officer
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

BTW....this photo depicts heavy Russian artillery being fired at UAF positions in CLEAR violation of Minsk 2 that Russia threatens to walk away from and WHICH they never fulfilled to begin with REGARDLESS of how many Kerry Moscow visits occurred.....

Obama...2014...."we will judge Putin by his actions not his words"...UNQUOTE

OSCE SMM drone spotted 47 MLRS, 16 towed howitzers, 10 tanks, 74 armoured vehicles, 40 military-type trucks in “LPR”-controlled #Miusynsk.

Outlaw 09

Wed, 08/17/2016 - 2:47am

The only field hospital in Daraya was targeted by Assad air forces with barrel bombs and napalm
https://youtu.be/QbvVL0exWaM

Both a war crime and a clear violation of UNSC Resolutions....AND the Obama WH says nothing.....

Outlaw 09

Wed, 08/17/2016 - 2:44am

The only field hospital in Daraya was targeted by Assad air forces with barrel bombs and napalm
https://youtu.be/QbvVL0exWaM

Both a war crimes and a direct violation of UNSC Resolutions....YET nothing is being said by the Obama WH?

Outlaw 09

Wed, 08/17/2016 - 2:32am

In reply to by Outlaw 09

It is really a good thing that Assad is not sectarian......and Putin is it seems...BUT WAIT did not the Russian Orthodox Church call out for a "crusade" when Putin went into Syria with his military???

Outlaw 09

Wed, 08/17/2016 - 2:25am

A reminder for the Obama/Rhodes/Kerry WH that their inactions in Syria have now contributed greatly to a full scale sectarian war between Shia and Sunni's...something they could have avoided if they had engaged in 2012.....

Iraqi Shi'i militias in S #Aleppo drag rebels body. "He's an Umayyad. The son of Aicha (i.e. Sunni")

AND now their total support for the PKK Kurdish proxy YPG/SDF in attempting to take Al Bab a fully Arab Sunni town they are actually now triggering an ethno sectarian conflict between Arab Sunni's, Shia and Kurds.....

BUT WAIT I thought Iraqi Shia militias were in Iraq defending Iraq from IS....then why are the Peshmerge taking Mosul????

Outlaw 09

Wed, 08/17/2016 - 2:14am

Results of the Russian air strikes THAT the US seems to fully ignore as they "do not want to rock the Putin boat" because after two full years of Crimea, eastern Ukraine, Syrian and a massive cyber war THEY still are trying to "talk to Putin" to see if he is "serious" about "talking"...

Syria: a shocking but must watch insight into a Aleppo field hospital https://youtu.be/T1XnX3kP5XI

Many dead after #RUS airstrikes on hospital in Darat Izza town /western #Aleppo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFLigukwDXI

THIS was a night time precision strike and only the RuAF can carry that out...

REMEMBER that now infamous Obama 2014 public statement..."we will judge Putin on his actions not his words"......

AND now..it seems the WH "totally forgot" that statement....

WORDS in international relations do count....

Outlaw 09

Wed, 08/17/2016 - 2:06am

Russian bombing strikes on over 50 Syrian towns and villages yesterday targeting basically civilians, hospitals, residential areas, schools, markets BUT nothing really against IS.....WHY is that?????

Their few IS strikes hit basically civilians and residential areas....not a single bomb made it onto IS targets......

The al-Rih al-Mursala hospital (Bearing Wind) in Darat Izza, #Aleppo was targeted & destroyed by a Russian night time precision airstrike

YET not a single word out of the Obama/Rhodes/Kerry WH nor a condemnation in the UNSC.....nothing....

Outlaw 09

Wed, 08/17/2016 - 1:59am

Has the Obama WH basically been lying to the US public and has been using the argument that in the ME they do not want to do anything "stupid" as an excuse to cover up their FULL tilt to Iran and Russia....meaning if we do take the Obama interview at full face value....Obama has basically abandoned the US FP in the ME to Iran and Russia......clearly seen in just about every decision they have made on the ME since 2012.....

AN interesting question that probably is true.....if in fact we were "spun" by Obama and Rhodes on the "Iran Deal" and both basically admitted it in their released interviews.....WHY should we then trust anything the Obama WH does while still in office....

There have been a serious number of times the US could have called out Putin on his actions in both eastern Ukraine, Syria and with the FSB/SVR/GRU hacking attacks on the US...BUT for some strange and unexplainable reason....total silence out of this WH....why is that???

US intel either wrongly assessed "growing recognition" in Russia to get out of Syria - or lied to US public about it

Russia can veto UNSC action. Which is another example of why it was idiotic to put our Iran policy in Russia hands.

BTW...this was a point that a number of SMEs pointed out to the WH...that namely it is the UNSC that must rule on any violation of the Iran Deal and Russia protects Iran ALWAYS during UNSC resolution votes.....

SO just why did the Obama/Rhodes/Kerry WH decide to go down this path unless they were effectively abandoning the entire ME to both Iran and Russia which is exactly what has happened in the last year.....???

Outlaw 09

Tue, 08/16/2016 - 3:59pm

In reply to by Outlaw 09

Al Arabiya English Verified account 
‏@AlArabiya_Eng
#BREAKING: #Russia use of #Iran base could be in contravention of UN Security Council Resolution 2231

US is fine with it. The Russians kindly called to say they were coming from Iran now. We're good.

https://twitter.com/alarabiya_eng/st...15911717990400

#Russia's use of #Iran base for air strikes in #Syria "unfortunate but not surprising," says @toner_mark.
That is an unfortunate way of putting it.

Would be interesting, relevant section of UNSC 2231. Surprised he said this, expect a walk back.

Russia's air campaign in Syria is about to get much deadlier — and Washington didn’t see it coming
http://read.bi/2aWYloy

Outlaw 09

Tue, 08/16/2016 - 7:52am

In reply to by Outlaw 09

Aleppo: Massive #Russia|n and #Assad airstrikes killed 60+ civilians in #Aleppo since the morning. Market and bus with civilians hit.

Aleppo: #Russia|n airstrike destroyed a bus carrying displaced people in #Ramouseh and killed 20+ civilians.

Appears RuAF has just killed more "terrorists"..
Syria Killed children after #RUS airstrikes on #Aleppo city today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o5vn9fO51Q

Outlaw 09

Tue, 08/16/2016 - 7:28am

In reply to by Outlaw 09

When your AF is only capable of "carpet bombing" THEN this is what you get....and the West will naturally remain silent...as we now know the West considers civilians "terrorists" just as Putin and his FM defined them months ago when they moved into Syria......

Here we go
First reports of massive civilian casualties in #DeirEzzor & west of #Aleppo in #RUS bombing raids

UPDATE
#Russia now says it hit #Saraqib in #Idlib province with the bomb carpets.
Waiting for footage from the ground ...

Iran-Russia-USA - the new axis of ...and that is now what the US FP is going to be viewed as by the Arab Sunni's in the ME....that so called "Golden Handshake" that many have stated happened months ago between Obama, Putin and Khamenei......

HAS now been effectively proven to them......

NOW the true ground reality of the so called Russian precision bombing becomes reality......

DeirEzzor: #Russia|n airstrikes destroyed a bakery and killed 30+ civilians in #DeirEzzor City

In fact, our ground troops, which are not in Syria, are on the ground with a laser designator for every one of these bombs. True story.

Outlaw 09

Tue, 08/16/2016 - 7:12am

More than 200 airstrikes have hit Aleppo city and province since yesterday evening and counting............Airstrikes hit market Tareeq al-Bab neighborhood of Aleppo.

Lots of dead and counting.....

Daraya repeatedly bombed with incendiary bombs as Regime ground offensive stalling via @DarayaCouncil.

Appears to be a napalm like substance being used not the normal Russian thermite incendiary cluster munitions......

Confirmed now to be a form of napalm.....long ago outlawed by international law ....but Assad and Putin do not care about international law, nor does the Obama WH......

BreakingPictures
Russian bomb attacks on #DaratIzza shortly ago.
Doesn't look like from Tu-22 tbh.
#Aleppo #Syria

NOT sure exactly what the Russians were aiming to hit BUT it sure looks like they deliberately targeted civilian residual housing areas.....NOT IS positions as they claimed...based on the early photos coming out of the strike zone....